With the second day now, the Practical Proteomics Seminar has ended. Overall my impression was positive, with enough valuable information being conveyed.
Following are just some quick notes or keywords:
For MRM: Optimize the collision energy / ideally with the excitation time as an tunable parameter
Standards:
Cycle time should be at least 1/10th of the peak elution time (less critical with schedules MRM, i.e. extract information which regions in time require the most "bandwidth"; a concept which reminds me of two-pass video encoding. Might have even borrowed some algorithms from there.) .
The target scan time has to be kept fixed, for reproducability.
AB-Sciex has its own proprietary wiff format. To get this converted into an open format it is best to use the netCDF format. (Analyst software - with IMHO very little changes over the last three years)
Starting with an new organism: get its fasta, ideally protein fasta (otherwise genomic annotation, 6frame translation etc... is necessary)
A few notes on 2D-separation:
2D Offline HPLC separation offers far greater flexibility and is ideal for method development. It is important to ask is my first protein after time x (which passed during the procedures) still the same protein?
E.Coli sample (>1000proteins) separated, with good result on a WAX column but little separation effect on a SAX column (this might imply purification of the manufacturer based on SAX and a significant bias introduced to the -in this case- BioRad standard)
some math: 182 = 98 + 42 +42 .........(Phos) + Ac?/3Me? + Ac?/3Me? * Offline SEC
Hydrophobicity correlates strongly with the size of the protein
Retrofitting / Upgrading a system to 2D:
Install an 8port sample valve
Use columns with "orthogonal" characteristics with the crucial separation phase taking place in the second dimension (I disagree) Orthogonal parameters would be for instance those of 2D-PAGE: Charge and Hydrophobicity (actually rather the hydrodynamic radius)
-- Native protein separation might be the next big thing? Far more information is retained. (But IMHO none of the deal-breaking issues of native separation were discussed.)
SEC: Is technically not even a chromatography (since molecular interactions are not part of the essential partitioning steps). Sample loading is paramount in such diffusion-driven systems.
HILIC: Hydrophilic interaction chromatography, is part of the normal phase liquid chromatography repertoire. It's driven by a liquid-liquid partitioning mechanism. Basically an organic modifier precipitates the PoI out, and by gradually ramping down the concentration of the organic modifier, the solubility of the PoI increases.
ERLIC: Electrostatic Repulsion Hydrophilic Interaction Chromatography, uses a charged column surface to repel a charged polar group motif on the PoI/analyte, facilitating partitioning based on the remaining uncharged polar groups. This effectively reduces the influence of this polar group on the overall partitioning.
or in pictorial terms:
( Evert-Jan Sneekes making sure everyone understands the advantages of monolithic columns)
Following are just some quick notes or keywords:
For MRM: Optimize the collision energy / ideally with the excitation time as an tunable parameter
Standards:
- SIL- protein/peptide of the target protein (since the isotopes won't change any chemical characteristics of the target analyte)
- Simple dillution series w. isotope std.
- Global internal standards:e.g. A reporter-linker-tag is used; two versions one light, one heavy. The light version is then added to each culture, and each sample/PoI measured individually, in another culture all are labeled heavy, and all samples/PoI's are combined to provide a relative expression measure relative to the light-labeled individual amounts
Cycle time should be at least 1/10th of the peak elution time (less critical with schedules MRM, i.e. extract information which regions in time require the most "bandwidth"; a concept which reminds me of two-pass video encoding. Might have even borrowed some algorithms from there.) .
The target scan time has to be kept fixed, for reproducability.
AB-Sciex has its own proprietary wiff format. To get this converted into an open format it is best to use the netCDF format. (Analyst software - with IMHO very little changes over the last three years)
Starting with an new organism: get its fasta, ideally protein fasta (otherwise genomic annotation, 6frame translation etc... is necessary)
A few notes on 2D-separation:
2D Offline HPLC separation offers far greater flexibility and is ideal for method development. It is important to ask is my first protein after time x (which passed during the procedures) still the same protein?
E.Coli sample (>1000proteins) separated, with good result on a WAX column but little separation effect on a SAX column (this might imply purification of the manufacturer based on SAX and a significant bias introduced to the -in this case- BioRad standard)
some math: 182 = 98 + 42 +42 .........(Phos) + Ac?/3Me? + Ac?/3Me? * Offline SEC
Hydrophobicity correlates strongly with the size of the protein
Retrofitting / Upgrading a system to 2D:
Install an 8port sample valve
Use columns with "orthogonal" characteristics with the crucial separation phase taking place in the second dimension (I disagree) Orthogonal parameters would be for instance those of 2D-PAGE: Charge and Hydrophobicity (actually rather the hydrodynamic radius)
-- Native protein separation might be the next big thing? Far more information is retained. (But IMHO none of the deal-breaking issues of native separation were discussed.)
SEC: Is technically not even a chromatography (since molecular interactions are not part of the essential partitioning steps). Sample loading is paramount in such diffusion-driven systems.
HILIC: Hydrophilic interaction chromatography, is part of the normal phase liquid chromatography repertoire. It's driven by a liquid-liquid partitioning mechanism. Basically an organic modifier precipitates the PoI out, and by gradually ramping down the concentration of the organic modifier, the solubility of the PoI increases.
ERLIC: Electrostatic Repulsion Hydrophilic Interaction Chromatography, uses a charged column surface to repel a charged polar group motif on the PoI/analyte, facilitating partitioning based on the remaining uncharged polar groups. This effectively reduces the influence of this polar group on the overall partitioning.
or in pictorial terms:
Separation of a trypic phosphopeptide (src: http://cypress-international.com/image/polylc/erlicmix2.html ) |
( Evert-Jan Sneekes making sure everyone understands the advantages of monolithic columns)
What if god was wrong? - Nice font-setting, is that 420em justified Tahoma or Verdana?(Picture: people in line for food at the IMBA Plaza)